artsykat
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Post by artsykat on Oct 6, 2016 2:16:18 GMT
When reading all these stories, I'm getting conflicted feelings on how Livy views Rome for himself. In Each story he's showing Rome in a different way. I think he want's to show different ending with a new morals to be learned. He seem's to be frank about the fault of Rome that he demonstrates in his tales, yet in a sense, could all those faults be viewed as greatness? I mean he lived in a completely different time era with different believes and views that we have now.
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Post by Christopher Martin on Oct 6, 2016 16:05:57 GMT
Interesting. In what way could a fault be viewed as greatness? Certainly there are some immensely complex/intricate examples/stories to draw upon here . ..
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artsykat
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Post by artsykat on Oct 7, 2016 23:41:39 GMT
Well, we would immediately view a fault in these stories such as we would from our society today. I thought that Aeneas was in the wrong when killing Turnus based on the views and context in which I grew up. When taking a closer look, I realized that there's more to the story when you compare the situation to their time and try to see the whole picture.
An example can be found in the beginning of the book, when the women say it would be better for them to die than for a war to happen. I immediately saw this as...mistreatment for women and unfairness, in the fact that it seems like they know their place and don't try to do anything about it. A fault in Rome. However, maybe for Livy he was showing instead the bravery the Roman women had, and the importance they saw in their families. Something he wouldn't have otherwise been able to demonstrate.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that through the faults Livy is showing, something good or even better comes out of them. Not in all circumstances, but if we look closely, their are quite a few of them.
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Post by Dominique Martin on Oct 8, 2016 0:54:41 GMT
On the point of faults being viewed as greatness. I think one point is that faults can lead to greatness, but maybe during this time they didn't fully recognize the faults. Example: the whole feeding people to lions and watching for their own entertainment. Maybe they just didn't understand what was so morally bad about these things. I can see it both ways.
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