artsykat
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Post by artsykat on Oct 21, 2016 5:02:05 GMT
What Cicero said about getting rid Catiline stood out to me. He basically said that instead of executing the criminal, which would solve the problem only temporary,cause of Catiline's allies, he would exile him. He said this so that way all of the Catiline's partners or allies would follow suit. "But if this man were to be put to death, I know that this disease of the Republic would only be checked for a while, not eradicated for ever. But if he banishes himself, and takes with him all his friends, and collects at one point every ruined man from the corner, then not only will this full-grown plague of the Republic be extinguished and eradicated, but also the root and seed of all future evils." Cicero is basically saying that instead of war and fighting, which Catiline seems to be bringing, there are other options, such as electing Cicero, and banishing Catiline. It's interesting to me how politicians manage to make almost every scenario work in their favor as well as the "common good". But, you know, politicians are still like this even today.
I'm not sure if there's much to be extrapolated from this point, but the way that politics were run in 63 BC is quite something. I have a rather poor understanding of politics, so it's been engaging to read it take place centuries ago.
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Post by Dominique Martin on Oct 29, 2016 2:36:13 GMT
Yeah I think this shows how people try to twist people's opinions to get what they want. Cicero obviously was not a fan of Catiline. So convincing everyone that Catiline was try to create destruction was the best way to get rid of him while maintaining his reputation. Doing this could also made the people trust him more and feel the need to put him in power.
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Post by Christopher Martin on Nov 1, 2016 4:21:53 GMT
Quite so! Cicero utilized quite a few rhetorical devices in order to try and persuade the rest of the Senate to take drastic action against Catiline, and although Cicero eventually got his way, he earned the enmity of a number of Romans for what they considered to be both unfair criticism of Catiline, and an over-harsh punishment of him (banishment).
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