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Post by Dominique Martin on Oct 28, 2016 22:27:30 GMT
"Thanks to our vices, rather than our misfortunes, we retain our glorious commonwealth in name only, when we have long since lost the reality." This is maybe one of the truest things I've heard. So many times we blame our failures and times of moral failing on misfortune. It is our vices, our weakness of heart that is to blame. One might say that misfortune and hard times are the quickest way to sainthood. He is essentially saying that the men of Rome have lost their integrity and therefore Rome is too. The only thing that remains from the time of Numa is the name Commonweath. He also explains that one must have knowledge, but that knowledge is nothing without experience. You can know how to do something but unless you actually do it you can be certain as to if it will work. Also, Example: you can read more books than any medical student but unless you actually do the physical work you can't claim the title Dr. The only way Rome can reclaim it's glory is if the people learn what they are supposed to do and be and actually put it into practice.
Also, i would again like to apologize for the late posts.
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Post by Christopher Martin on Oct 29, 2016 13:19:16 GMT
You've hit upon yet another crucial piece of Cicero's argument: that the strength of all governments, but particularly a commonwealth, is drawn from the virtue of the people
For Cicero, its easy to see the desperation in his arguments when he talks about virtue . . . he seems to see so clearly that the virtue of the people is in decline, and he obviously worries that the ebb and flow of power will soon give way to a tyranny in Rome . . . so then, absolutely: the people need a doctor, and they need to doctor themselves!
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Post by Christopher Martin on Oct 29, 2016 13:21:26 GMT
Re: sorry for the late posts-
Better late than never! I urge you to both dedicate yourself to hard work and also to not be so hard on yourself: Reading the Great Books is not easy, but most of the time we each come across something very compelling and easy to discuss . . . something that other people may not have noticed! These are excellent contributions to class discussion, and I look forward to more of the same.
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